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Possible Additions to CANWin Policy

August 1st, 2007

At the special meeting at which the new policy document was ratified, members mentioned other points on which CANWin might express a position, but due to time limitations they were not able to be discussed. It was suggested that we use this blog page to accumulate a body of opinion on each of the issues, and call a another meeting in the near future to add some or all of them to the policy. I list the issues here, and suggest that one or more proponents of each one put words to a specific proposal in a separate blog, to which comments may be added. In this way, we might collect a series of proposals to bring to a meeting, the wording of which will have already been refined to some extent.

The issues:
1. Environmental refugees & health effects
2. Nuclear fuel cycle
3. Geosequestration
4. Population control
5. Local manufacturing base increase
6. Steady state economics
7. Emissions trading/taxation
8. Limit urbanisation
9. Energy for developing countries
10.Limits of renewable energy
11. Food security & GM food
12. Government support for I.T.E.R.
13. Labelliung of food miles

The Management Committee suggests that members of Canwin choose a maximum of six (6) topics for discussion in a meeting in early September.  As one member said, “This discussion will determine the future direction of Canwin. Any member who does not attend and participate in the discussion can have NO grounds for complaint about the policy or direction of Canwin from this time forward. This is democracy in action and are we not an action group?”

So let’s hear from you….

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Nuclear Forum, a Summary & Review

June 5th, 2007

The Nuclear Forum on June 2nd was an example of the broad community interest in the nuclear issue and also the wide appeal of CANWin. The audience of about 70 was a mix of ages, classes, levels of education, political leaning and included those with pro, con and undecided opinions on the appropriateness of the nuclear option. Not only was the audience very heterogeneous, but the evening was an excellent example of people demonstrating respect for each other and their differences.

To the best of my recollection, this is what I heard from the four speakers:

Dr. Tom Romberg, formerly of the CSIRO and the Australian Atomic Energy Commission, presented the technical facts about nuclear power generation, and he expressed a great deal of confidence in the safety of the latest generation of nuclear reactors. From a purely scientific perspective, the nuclear option seems to be a practical proposition, provided that coal-fired electricity production is priced to reflect its real cost to the environment. However, Dr. Romberg stated very emphatically that nuclear power is not the solution to climate change. The Switkowski Report to the government admitted that it would take 10-15 years to get nuclear power up and running, too late to have any significant impact on a fight against climate change that is becoming increasingly urgent. Dr. Romberg doubted that a nuclear power industry could be in place even in 15 years, due to the shortage of trained personnel and technical expertise in Australia, and considered that 20-25 years would be a more realistic timetable.

Graham Sanders, an electrical engineer and former lecturer at the University of Sydney, provided an evaluation of alternative forms of power generation.

Hydropower is clean but is already about as developed as it is going to get, especially in an increasingly dry continent. Natural gas is the only immediately available alternative for additional base load generation, and could fill the gap while waiting for renewable forms of energy to be developed further. It burns much cleaner than coal, but still produces greenhouse gases, and is a more expensive option, though not as expensive as nuclear.

Hot-rock geothermal power in central Australia is the most promising, as it offers potentially well-priced, abundant, full-time electricity production with no carbon emissions, and could be available within 10 years. The main drawback is the distance over which the power must be transmitted, but this is not insurmountable.

At this stage, wind-power is the most competitive in terms of price, (cheaper than nuclear, but more expensive than coal) but there are problems balancing demand with production, which varies with the wind. As yet there is no cheap, simple and reliable means of storing electrical power so as to even out the load.

Solar power is similarly variable, producing only when the sun is shining. Photovoltaic cells are still relatively expensive per unit of energy, though the price will fall and efficiency will rise over the next few years. Solar thermal plants have an advantage in that some designs incorporate methods of storing electricity so that they can generate power even when the sun is not shining, and they will produce power more inexpensively than photovoltaic cells.

Other sources of power that are convenient to a population that lives largely on the coast include waves and tides, but the technology has not yet progressed to a stage where commercial quantities of power can be supplied.

However, Graham said that the single most important contribution that can be made to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and one that can be made immediately is an increase in efficiency in our use of energy. Simply using less energy far outweighs any potential advantage provided by nuclear energy or any other form of energy in the short to medium term, and is absolutely essential if we are to make a meaningful impact in reducing our carbon emissions.

Whereas the first two speakers addressed that which can be done with nuclear power, Sandra Menteith, a lecturer in ethics, talked about whether or not we should do anything at all with nuclear power. Indeed, this is the crux of the issue, and hence the most important question to be answered. She noted that ethics is all about how we act toward others; so, ethical considerations have to do with putting our own wants aside to consider the needs of others. With regard to nuclear power, we must first ask: who wins and who loses, who profits and who pays, who gains and who suffers.

Even if the risks associated with nuclear power are as reasonable as the nuclear industry suggests; even if the risks are more than balanced by the advantages, it is unethical to impose those risks on others, especially future generations that have no say in the matter. The more that is learned about exposure to radiation, the stronger the medical opinion that there is no safe level of exposure. If, as is claimed, the radiation leaking from a typical nuclear power plant is about the same as the background radiation from cosmic rays, it still means doubling the number of cancers that would be caused by background radiation alone.

History shows that dangerous or polluting industries follow a path of least resistance to the poorest and most powerless members of the community. Those who profit from the nuclear industry inevitably will not be the ones who live near uranium mines, nuclear power plants and nuclear waste storage sites. (As yet there is no safe commercial long-term storage facilities for nuclear waste.)

Noting the long history of accidents and near accidents in the nuclear industry, it would be naïve to think that it was now without danger. Even the best science cannot rule out human error and even the best engineering cannot produce a fault-free plant. Insurance companies, which make a business of evaluating and quantifying risk, have never been willing to insure a nuclear power plant against a major accident. The cost of such a tragedy would fall upon the taxpayer.

Apart from the very first members of the nuclear club, which developed nuclear power from their weapons programs, the later proliferation of nuclear weapons has followed the development of nuclear power plants; hardly what is needed amid today’s violent and unstable political situations.

Although there are several moral arguments against nuclear power, there are none to support it. It does nothing that another, less polluting form of power cannot do, particularly in Australia, which is blessed with abundant sun, win, geothermal, and tidal sources of power. With regard to combating climate change, Sandra agreed with the other speakers that nuclear power would be too little and too late to make a significant difference, and she added that, even if one were to pursue nuclear power at a later time, even with the best of intentions (e.g. to reduce carbon emissions), it would be a morally flawed means of obtaining that goal.

Finally Rob Parker recounted the political history of nuclear power in Australia, and noted that it continues to be a function of the lobbying power of the mining and other industries, as well as a means by which the government can be seen to be doing something to cover up the apparent inadequacy of their response to climate change to date. He called upon the people to lobby for immediate action on climate change, particularly to obtain the help of government to bring about the necessary behavioural change toward a sustainable life style, which is the single most important ingredient in reducing Australia’s greenhouse gas production.

All of the presentations were well done and thought provoking. As one who came from a science and engineering background before moving into the ministry, I can appreciate the technical beauty of the modern nuclear reactor, and I understand Dr. Romberg’s position very well. It is easy to marvel at the technical brilliance that humankind has brought to the task of overcoming problems and improving its lot. However, having been a reliability engineer for an aerospace company and the quality manager for a global corporation, I know how quality and reliability decrease as a device moves from the brilliance of the scientist’s invention and the attention to detail in the engineer’s design to the factory where it is made to the place where is to be used to the human beings who operate and maintain it. If I was the fifth speaker, I would have wanted to say:

Quality and reliability are design parameters that are quantified and costed. In the end, the design parameters can be no more stringent than can be funded by the budget for the project. GM has the ability to make a Holden that will last as long as a Rolls Royce, but if it did, we would have to pay Rolls Royce prices for our Holdens. Perhaps, with an infinite budget, we could make a device that would last forever and never falter, but in the real world compromises must be made. Customers will only pay so much, and manufacturers must make a profit, so there are limits to quality and reliability, even in nuclear reactors.

The device that has probably the highest-ever levels of designed-in quality and reliability, full of redundant systems to guarantee fail-safe performance, is the space shuttle; yet, over only 120 flights, two have been lost along with their crews. Despite all the money and brainpower that has gone into making space shuttles failsafe, almost 2% of the shuttle missions have ended in disaster. Would you fly in an airplane that crashed 2% of the time? Nuclear reactors are somewhat safer, of 440 plants in the world, two have melted down, i.e. a little under half a percent, but still an unacceptably high rate of catastrophic failure. There have, of course, been thousands of other less serious accidents that you never hear about. Generation IV reactors may indeed be safer, but since none have ever been built, we do not know for certain whether or not practice will measure up to the theory.

One of the basic tenets of reliability engineering is that, all things being equal, the more complex a device, the more it is inherently unreliable. It is a statement of the obvious: the more complex something is, the more there is to go wrong. Space shuttles and nuclear reactors are immensely complex. Add the flaws inherent in human nature to the inherent unreliability due to the complexity of the device, and you have a dangerous mix.

I have dealt with numerous failures of supposedly very reliable products and processes in my working life, and they happened for all sorts of reasons. It is not that the designs were flawed, though they sometimes are, but that human beings conspired to create a series of unpredictable events that overcame all of the quality measures and redundant systems. If an engineer was to imagine that a particular failure would only occur if a particular component failed at the exact time that five different people did something wrong in a particular order over a precise timeline, he might reasonably conclude that it would never happen in a million years; but sometimes the millionth year plus one comes first.  Space shuttles crash and nuclear reactors melt down.

Perhaps a factory manager is pushed to meet a budget and a deadline, and he is falling behind, so he takes a short cut and overrides a quality manager’s decision. Perhaps a government inspector finds the fault, but he needs money, and a bribe helps him forget to report the problem. Perhaps an operator is overtired because he had a fight with his wife and didn’t sleep the night before, and he pushes a wrong button. Normally, a safety device would notice his mistake, but this device was the one made by the factory with the harried manager, and passed by the bribed inspector. Of course, there is a back-up safety device, but at the very moment it was needed, there was a fraction of a second in which the power was interrupted due to a lightning strike nearby. In that fraction of a second there is a cascade of failures as one failure brings on a failure in a related system, and so on.

If the project quality manager had suggested that this precise series of events might happen, he would have been laughed down. But things like this really do happen. They cause planes to crash and submarines to sink, space shuttles to blow up and nuclear reactors to release radiation upon an unsuspecting neighbourhood full of children. Early in his presentation Dr. Romberg noted that life is a series of risks that we take daily. Simpy to use a car to attend the forum required a risk to be taken. But there is moral question with regard to risk. Space shuttle pilots, airline passengers and operators of motor vehicles know the risks, and choose to take them. The children who live next door to a nuclear plant have not accepted the risk, nor are they likely even to be aware of it; rather, it has been imposed by others who’s objective is money and/or power. Moral or immoral?

If you talk to the people who actually work with the equipment, their stories will be quite different to the stories of the owners of nuclear power plants or designers of the plant or the managers who devise the procedures. The workers will tell you of workmates who are drunk or stoned, mistakes that have been covered up and shortcuts that have been taken; accidents that have happened but are not reported, and reported accidents that have been covered up under the guise of “security.”

There is one thing that can be depended upon in any human endeavour, particularly one as complex as nuclear power: if there is something that can go wrong, it will. If that “something” is as devastating as a nuclear meltdown, the only way to guarantee that it will never happen is to avoid building any nuclear reactors. Sandra quoted Ian Lowe, a former nuclear scientist and professor at ANU, who said, “If nuclear is the answer, it must have been a stupid question.”

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the need for civil disobedience

May 28th, 2007

I think it is reasonable to assume that those who mainly got us into climate chaos are not going to get us out of it. Business and political elites are pursuing business as usual or re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Carbon trading will be based on corporate ’self-regulation’ and will thus, by definition, not work. It will merely help nuclear and ‘clean coal’ become ‘more competitive’. These latter two technologies in turn will mean an even greater wrecked future of nuclear contamination and more carbon emissions (to maintain the nuclear cycle, as escaping gas from underground storage). Our leaders are thus playing Russian roulette with the atmosphere, risking horrific climatic tipping points, just to maintain the capitalist industrial system and their power within it. Objectively, they are thus a grave danger to the security of our children. To appeal to them is naive and pointless. The challenging fact is: WE OURSELVES are the people we have been waiting for to provide the solutions. Rationally, only our actions (or lack thereof) can provide any hope for a lower carbon future. I would suggest that re-localisation of the economy and civil disobedience are the only realistic way to go. Some of the specific possibilities of the former are being talked about in the Food Group and could be further discussed in CanWin. Here are some first ideas to get the ball rolling on the latter: 1. BOYCOTT (climate killing products, events and companies, attack their PR images) 2. OSTRACISE (all order-givers in climate killing business and politics, no longer talk to them) 3. DISINVEST (get churches, councils, funds to disinvest in all climate killing and nuclear companies) 4. OCCUPY (offices of climate killing and nuke companies and political Fed reps till all taxpayer subsidies to fossil fuel and nukes are redirected to energy and water conservation and renewables, 90% emissions cuts by 2050,  environmental refugees are accepted) 5. CREATIVE BILLBOARDING  6. GREEN GUERRILLA (planting of useful seedlings for fruit, nuts, coppice in public areas and nature strips).

Peter

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Candidates Cleared the Air, but it’s still a Greenhouse

March 12th, 2007

The Candidates’ Debate last Saturday night on climate change was reasonably well-attended (around 80), but given our membership (about 200), I was disappointed that there were not more to demonstrate to the candidates that climate change is the issue that must go to the top of their agenda.

The candidates performed well, with dignity and discipline, and none of their supporters would have felt let down. All would make better parliamentarians than some of the ones we already have, so I don’t think that, in general terms, the Goulburn electorate can lose in this election.

However, on the issue of climate change, the debate identified those who fully understand the seriousness of the matter, and those who are merely playing the political game. All did their homework reasonably well but, of the five candidates, only two showed any real passion for tackling the problem. Whereas, before the debate, I really had no idea for whom I would vote, after the debate it was clear that only Bill Dorman and Rob Parker are serious about tackling global warming as a matter of urgency. Only these two showed the passion, commitment and understanding of the issue that we, the voters, need in our politicians.

Bill made a telling point in his summary when he suggested that, though he has little if any chance of winning, a first preference for the Green candidate will send a message to the major parties that the voters expect action on the environment. Then you can vote for a likely winner with your second preference, thus making your vote count twice. He was also the only candidate to tackle the coal issue.

Rob’s big point was the need to de-politicise climate change action. Because the necessary steps are going to include some very unpopular ones, no one party will dare to act for fear of the opposition taking advantage of potential voter backlash. He proposed a national climate change authority with power to regulate. He missed the opportunity to remind us that our best chance of effective representation, in what looks to be another Labour government in this state, is ensure that our elected representative is a member of the Labour caucus.

I previously had heard Paul Stephenson and Pru Goward before coming into the debate and had been impressed with their ability to think on their feet and their grasp of the issues. They did not let me down on this score.

I had never met Geoff Peet, and was pleasantly surprised by his obvious ability and his concern that, whatever, is done, it be done right. It was unfortunate that he chose to mention that the earth was created 8000 years ago. He is certainly entitled to his religious beliefs, but there was no need to say it, and he lost most of the audience at this point. Afterward, this seemed to be the main thing that people remembered about his performance. Geoff, take this as a lesson for the future.

Thanks to the all the candidates, to the small team that helped to organise, set up and clean up afterward, and to everyone who participated.

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Lift need for the 24th of Feb

February 8th, 2007

Does anyone have a spear seat in their car for the MSCL day the 24th of Feb? I Live along the Moss Vale road but I can be drop of if needed at a meeting point. I am in the energy Group and we have a group meeting at 11am, which I would like to be there for. 

Thanks Claire (seabix)

 

 

seabix General

An interesting point!! A wise man once said that if you turned three corners you ended up where you started.

February 6th, 2007

An interesting point!! A wise man once said that if you turned three corners you ended up where you started.
 
Nuclear power cooling stations like most scientists will tell you uses up 80% more water than normal coal power cooling stations. Currently the Federal Govt is seeking control of the two most important rivers in Australia the Murry and the Darling. The Govt is proposing 25 of these power stations, that is a lot of water.
 
But the public is not worried the Federal Govt has a wonderful idea about desalinization plants, ‘ this will give use as much water as we need’. Please think about this for a while cast your mind way back in the days of school when you did that experiment on removing water from salty water. The time taken to vaporize the water and cool again was a long time and took a lot of energy. The gas burner was firing the whole time. The end result was water that you could still taste traces of salt, and its hard water. Hard water wrecks your hair, stomach, skin and uses up double the detergent, soap or shampoo. Just ask anyone that has lived in Dubai. 
 
So it is a situation of nuclear power needs a lot of water and to make a lot of water would need a lot of power one feeds the other. The two power stations cancel each other out. Mega liters of water needs megawatts and megawatts need mega liters of water. Are you seeing what I am seeing yes we have just turned three corners and are back where we started no water and not enough power? The federal Govt knows this that is why they need control. So as when there mega investment doesn’t work they will have the power to make it work lots of water from the Murry and Darling. However there is one question left to be answered when we have no food because farmers no longer can take from the rivers because the water in needed to create ‘safe nuclear’ power what will be the next plan?  

seabix General

Food & Climate Change

February 5th, 2007

What does food have to do with climate change? What are food miles?
Learn about the hidden costs of ‘globe-trotting food’.

Keep an eye on this spot – CANWin’s Food and Biodiversity group will draw on local knowledge to re-localise food production, support local farmers and assist people in setting up home food gardens.

Come to our showing of the award-winning DVD ‘Global Banquet: The Politics of food’ at a Pot-Luck supper – bring food to share and stories about how easy (or difficult) is was to source local, fresh foods). 28 April, 2007:

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Voting for action on climate change

January 30th, 2007

This year we have elections coming up for the New South Wales State and Federal Parliaments. Obviously, our voting in these elections will be influenced by many factors but the need for urgent action on climate change by our governments does bring into focus the question of how might we use these elections to vote for action on climate change.
Elections serve several purposes

  • To elect people to Parliaments to represent the views and needs of all people in local (lower house) and state (upper house) electorates
  • To elect Members of Parliaments who will decide on legislative proposals and oversee the work of Executive Governments
  • Indirectly, through our representative Members, to decide who will be Ministers in these Executive Governments

Unfortunately, in the hype that has become politics, it has become increasingly difficult for people generally to have their views and needs recognised, not to mention the difficulties for us of judging (on the basis of brief appearances on television or in the barnyards of Parliaments) the potential competencies of candidates as legislators or as Ministerial heads of government departments.
Increasingly, political parties dominate elections with marketing exercises aimed at ‘selling’ packages of promises. Also increasingly, much of what we ‘know’ about our current representatives and Ministers is based on what the media shows us of their grandstanding both in Parliaments and on tours that have little to do with the real work of either Members or Ministers.
We don’t have to be taken in by all of this. Elections are about far more than simply deciding who will be in Governments. Deciding between candidates for the major parties is only part of what we should be doing when we cast our votes. Elections give us a real opportunity to express our views and needs and to make parliamentary elections the ultimate opinion polls.
One strength of our preferential electoral systems is that they allow us to give our first preferences to candidates and/or policies that we feel best represent our way of thinking. Our preferred candidate may not get elected but our electoral systems allow also for our votes to be transferred to the candidate and his or her policies and party that we regard as next best (and so on).
Eventually, even if we have voted initially for minor candidates, our vote still can have an influence over who actually gets elected – and, indirectly on who forms Government – when it transfers to candidates from the larger parties .
Of course this may require us to number all squares on a ballot papers but there are two very good reasons for us to think about doing this:

  • To show elected representatives and governments what we really want of them
  • To promote to the health of our democracy, by ensuring that minorities are heard

On the last point, a proportion of electoral funding goes to parties that in a local or state electorate win more than four per cent of primary (first preference) votes. Political parties and not just elections cost money to run. By voting according to your values you are helping to ensure that discussion is maintained in our community.
What has all of this got to do with climate change? If we are to get leadership and vision out of governments on climate change then we need to show that we want these things in both candidates and their parties. The only effective way for us to do that is by voting our first preferences for candidates who have a rational understanding of what must be done both to mitigate climate change and to manage the consequences of climate change.
This is not a time to be voting for vague promises or for things that might come to pass in some distant future.

Ian Bowie General

Excellent “City Farms/Community Gardens” conference in Melbourne

January 28th, 2007

Below are details of what appears to be an excellent food security conference coming up in Melbourne.  The web site is http://www.communitygarden.org.au/ and the programs and flyers can be downloaded from there.  I feel inspired to go.

4th Annual Australian City Farms & Community Gardens Network Conference
(incorporating the 19th Annual Seed Savers’ Network Conference)

WHEN: 20-25 March 2007
WHERE: Collingwood Town Hall, Melbourne

Keynote speakers:
Dr. Vandana Shiva & Helena Norberg-Hodge
International perspectives on food security

David Holmgren
Permaculture, energy descent and food security

Mick Marston
UK Federation of City Farms and Community Gardens

Malaika Edwards
Co-founder People’s Grocery, Oakland USA

Jude & Michel Fanton
Seed Savers’ Network

Gardening Australia presenter Jerry Coleby-Williams
Sustainable urban gardening

Conference themes across four days include:

  • School Gardens
  • Seed Savers
  • Food Security
  • City Farms & Community Gardens

Andy General

A CANWin POLICY STATEMENT

January 23rd, 2007

This is to draw your attention to the draft that is posted on the Lobbying/Advocacy working group page. Some of the material is not relevant to the state policy environment and will be edited out before the finalised  statement goes to candidates once they have declared for the Southern Highlands seat for the 24 March state election.

Ian Bowie General