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	<title>Comments for Climate Action Now Wingecarribee (CANWin) Inc.</title>
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	<description>Climate Action Now for a sustainable future on the NSW Southern Highlands</description>
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		<title>Comment on Moss Vale Farmers&#8217; and Flea Market by Robert Simpson</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2010/11/21/moss-vale-farmers-and-flea-market/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 07:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please advise contact number /s for bookings and costs etc nd set up times and market duration</description>
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		<title>Comment on Clean Energy Roadshow by Miles</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2012/03/03/clean-energy-roadshow-stories-from-the-clean-energy-frontline/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will attend the Wollongong event.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Taking action for a Clean Energy Future for Wingecarribee by cburniston</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2011/12/08/taking-action-for-a-clean-energy-future-for-wingecarribee/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>cburniston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 06:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>simple, clean, effective energy idea http://www.wimp.com/lightenup/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple, clean, effective energy idea <a href="http://www.wimp.com/lightenup/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wimp.com/lightenup/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft guidelines for wind farm developments in NSW by Popeye</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2012/01/12/draft-guidelines-for-wind-farm-developments-in-nsw/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Popeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span style=&quot;font-color: #888888&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;[Moderator: The original post is about the State government&#039;s draft guidelines on wind farms. Discussion of climate science is off topic and has been removed. Popeye, you&#039;re welcome to comment again on this or any other topic if you keep your remarks civil and on topic. But don&#039;t expect to be taken seriously if you quote the Daily Mail as an authority.]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
Goodbye (cause the banter is boring and I don&#039;t expect ANY intelligent answers to my very reasonable questions) and cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-color: #888888"><em>[Moderator: The original post is about the State government's draft guidelines on wind farms. Discussion of climate science is off topic and has been removed. Popeye, you're welcome to comment again on this or any other topic if you keep your remarks civil and on topic. But don't expect to be taken seriously if you quote the Daily Mail as an authority.]</em></span><br />
Goodbye (cause the banter is boring and I don&#8217;t expect ANY intelligent answers to my very reasonable questions) and cheers,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Want to reduce your electricity bills? by cburniston</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2012/01/24/want-to-reduce-your-electricity-bills/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>cburniston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow just like mobile phones and computers renewable technology is just technology. Starts at one price and in 5 years time everyone has one. Check out this power station providing energy from solar at night.  http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-57373508-54/solar-tower-will-power-las-vegas-at-night/?tag=txt%3Btitle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow just like mobile phones and computers renewable technology is just technology. Starts at one price and in 5 years time everyone has one. Check out this power station providing energy from solar at night.  <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-57373508-54/solar-tower-will-power-las-vegas-at-night/?tag=txt%3Btitle" rel="nofollow">http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-57373508-54/solar-tower-will-power-las-vegas-at-night/?tag=txt%3Btitle</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft guidelines for wind farm developments in NSW by cburniston</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2012/01/12/draft-guidelines-for-wind-farm-developments-in-nsw/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>cburniston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear someone has got off the track. Your comment “How could any reasonable person believe that a wind turbine is more unsightly than high voltage transmission towers and power lines snaking inexorably across the rural landscape?”. I am a reasonable person and I do not agree. Wind turbines would be providing local jobs and income for rural communities. Anyone with a farm knows how hard it is to make a living off the land. Diversify their income is their best protection against being driven off the land. Also these renewable power stations would be providing local jobs. Families would not have to live life with mum or dad flying and out of mining site.  I can not believe that you do not support rural Australia. 

The climate debate always reminds me of when society first started to argue about if smoking causes cancer.  Great little article at http://www.hemonctoday.com/article.aspx?rid=37712 Joanne nova plays the physician very well maybe we could even get her to say “20,679 physicians say ‘Luckies are less irritating”. 

Anyway your last inspiring rant was regarding CO2 content. Humans only create 3% of the CO2 emissions well done but I think we all knew that. What you failed to mention was that every year the earths atmosphere removes all of  the CO2 it produces. Humans are adding CO2 without removing any and this is building up every year. http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm 
 
The old Water Vapor excuse. Yes it has been looked up and studied maybe you should brush up on it http://www.skepticalscience.com/water-vapor-greenhouse-gas.htm 

Anyway it has been a pleasure. Do you live in NSW or maybe the Southern highlands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear someone has got off the track. Your comment “How could any reasonable person believe that a wind turbine is more unsightly than high voltage transmission towers and power lines snaking inexorably across the rural landscape?”. I am a reasonable person and I do not agree. Wind turbines would be providing local jobs and income for rural communities. Anyone with a farm knows how hard it is to make a living off the land. Diversify their income is their best protection against being driven off the land. Also these renewable power stations would be providing local jobs. Families would not have to live life with mum or dad flying and out of mining site.  I can not believe that you do not support rural Australia. </p>
<p>The climate debate always reminds me of when society first started to argue about if smoking causes cancer.  Great little article at <a href="http://www.hemonctoday.com/article.aspx?rid=37712" rel="nofollow">http://www.hemonctoday.com/article.aspx?rid=37712</a> Joanne nova plays the physician very well maybe we could even get her to say “20,679 physicians say ‘Luckies are less irritating”. </p>
<p>Anyway your last inspiring rant was regarding CO2 content. Humans only create 3% of the CO2 emissions well done but I think we all knew that. What you failed to mention was that every year the earths atmosphere removes all of  the CO2 it produces. Humans are adding CO2 without removing any and this is building up every year. <a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm</a> </p>
<p>The old Water Vapor excuse. Yes it has been looked up and studied maybe you should brush up on it <a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/water-vapor-greenhouse-gas.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticalscience.com/water-vapor-greenhouse-gas.htm</a> </p>
<p>Anyway it has been a pleasure. Do you live in NSW or maybe the Southern highlands?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft guidelines for wind farm developments in NSW by Popeye</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2012/01/12/draft-guidelines-for-wind-farm-developments-in-nsw/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>Popeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ONE thing that you have missed (and all warmists do).

CO2 can ONLY WARM the earth (remember it is a &quot;greenhouse&quot; gas).

So, since the earth&#039;s CO2 content is 97% natural what do YOU think we should do about this natural portion. Forget about the PALTRY 3% that is man&#039;s contribution - not much value in doing anything about what we contribute when 97% isn&#039;t ours!

Also, I&#039;ve included a link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth]link[/) which MAY help you better understand the makeup of the earth&#039;s atmosphere. (Yes - I know it&#039;s only WIKI but I thought that might be something you can agree with).

Check out the PII chart on the RHS - note they&#039;ve had to expand the chart just so you can see the CO2 portion (it&#039;s THAT small). Then think about how small the slice for man&#039;s contribution at 3% of CO2 would be. Absolute piffle that this micro amount would have ANY affect on our temperatures.

When I went to school we were actually taught Physics and we were taught that the earth&#039;s atmosphere comprised 80% Nitrogen and 20% Oxygen - all the other gases were &quot;also rans&quot; and MINUTE in comparison - the graph shows this to be true!

One last thing - please do yourselves a favour look up what water vapour does - it may surprise you  (not to mention the Sun).

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ONE thing that you have missed (and all warmists do).</p>
<p>CO2 can ONLY WARM the earth (remember it is a &#8220;greenhouse&#8221; gas).</p>
<p>So, since the earth&#8217;s CO2 content is 97% natural what do YOU think we should do about this natural portion. Forget about the PALTRY 3% that is man&#8217;s contribution &#8211; not much value in doing anything about what we contribute when 97% isn&#8217;t ours!</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve included a link (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earthlink/" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earthlink/</a>) which MAY help you better understand the makeup of the earth&#8217;s atmosphere. (Yes &#8211; I know it&#8217;s only WIKI but I thought that might be something you can agree with).</p>
<p>Check out the PII chart on the RHS &#8211; note they&#8217;ve had to expand the chart just so you can see the CO2 portion (it&#8217;s THAT small). Then think about how small the slice for man&#8217;s contribution at 3% of CO2 would be. Absolute piffle that this micro amount would have ANY affect on our temperatures.</p>
<p>When I went to school we were actually taught Physics and we were taught that the earth&#8217;s atmosphere comprised 80% Nitrogen and 20% Oxygen &#8211; all the other gases were &#8220;also rans&#8221; and MINUTE in comparison &#8211; the graph shows this to be true!</p>
<p>One last thing &#8211; please do yourselves a favour look up what water vapour does &#8211; it may surprise you  (not to mention the Sun).</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft guidelines for wind farm developments in NSW by SMOates</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2012/01/12/draft-guidelines-for-wind-farm-developments-in-nsw/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>SMOates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need to be bored Popeye. If Olive Oyle is busy with diesel you could try explaining why you think the Zero Emissions plan doesn&#039;t deal with the issues that Inhaber&#039;s recent paper apparently raised. I say apparently  because it&#039;s paywalled and I haven&#039;t seen it. I&#039;m going mostly by the post about it on brave new climate. 

If you want to prolong the discussion, put some substance into your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need to be bored Popeye. If Olive Oyle is busy with diesel you could try explaining why you think the Zero Emissions plan doesn&#8217;t deal with the issues that Inhaber&#8217;s recent paper apparently raised. I say apparently  because it&#8217;s paywalled and I haven&#8217;t seen it. I&#8217;m going mostly by the post about it on brave new climate. </p>
<p>If you want to prolong the discussion, put some substance into your comments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft guidelines for wind farm developments in NSW by Popeye</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2012/01/12/draft-guidelines-for-wind-farm-developments-in-nsw/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>Popeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have ACTUALLY read the link to Zero Emiisions, hence my comments in the post above.

You obviously haven&#039;t even bothered to read my links or you would be much more informed than your post demonstrates.

The link I provided (if you bother to read it) provides AMPLE reasoning why renewables are NOWHERE near being able to provide baseload electricity.

And let&#039;s not even go anywhere near the science of AGW and too much man made CO2 in the atmosphere - yep the science (religion) of the current &quot;true believers&quot; plainly just doesn&#039;t stack up.

You know what SMO - this is getting boring (REAL boring) - better sharpen up!!

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have ACTUALLY read the link to Zero Emiisions, hence my comments in the post above.</p>
<p>You obviously haven&#8217;t even bothered to read my links or you would be much more informed than your post demonstrates.</p>
<p>The link I provided (if you bother to read it) provides AMPLE reasoning why renewables are NOWHERE near being able to provide baseload electricity.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not even go anywhere near the science of AGW and too much man made CO2 in the atmosphere &#8211; yep the science (religion) of the current &#8220;true believers&#8221; plainly just doesn&#8217;t stack up.</p>
<p>You know what SMO &#8211; this is getting boring (REAL boring) &#8211; better sharpen up!!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft guidelines for wind farm developments in NSW by SMOates</title>
		<link>http://canwin.org.au/entry/2012/01/12/draft-guidelines-for-wind-farm-developments-in-nsw/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>SMOates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The links haven&#039;t changed - you sure you clicked straight?
It would help the conversation if you could provide a more detailed critique of the Zero Emissions and other plans for 100% renewable energy than just calling their work fairy tales. Banter is fun, but it&#039;s more fun when it&#039;s informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The links haven&#8217;t changed &#8211; you sure you clicked straight?<br />
It would help the conversation if you could provide a more detailed critique of the Zero Emissions and other plans for 100% renewable energy than just calling their work fairy tales. Banter is fun, but it&#8217;s more fun when it&#8217;s informed.</p>
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